2019 Game Informer
宝可梦主创的胡闹问答
增田顺一 × 大森滋
Game Informer 与《宝可梦 剑·盾》总监大森滋、制作人增田顺一聊了聊耀西、卡比、传说宝可梦锦标赛等轻松话题。
Contents 本篇 30 章
- 小智在宝可梦游戏的世界观里存在吗？
- 你有没有注意到大木博士和小智的妈妈之间有点奇怪？
- 任天堂的角色里有谁是宝可梦吗？比如耀西？他老是喊自己的名字。
- 那卡比呢？
- 我没想到答案会朝那个方向发展！
- 所有传说的宝可梦参加一场锦标赛。哪一只会成为冠军？
- 在野外遇到的最危险的宝可梦是什么？
- 宝可梦图鉴 App 的条目确实说它会压碎训练家的脊椎……
- 有没有人在用旧版本的宝可梦图鉴 App，就像有些人还在用旧款 iPhone 那样？
- 现在还有火箭队的小股势力在活动吗？
- 那么，火箭队的成员和GO火箭队的成员是同一批人吗？
- 你信任维罗博士吗？
- 既然你参与了这么多《Pokémon GO》的工作，那你一定知道他把你传送给他的那些宝可梦拿...
- 我们在城镇和宝可梦中心听到的那些曲子，是宝可梦世界里真实存在的歌曲吗？比如，那些歌是电台里...
- 所以只是在角色脑子里？并不是宝可梦中心的扬声器在放？
- 那是不是意味着你在宝可梦世界里是位明星音乐人？
- 你能一劳永逸地解答一下吗：精灵球里面是什么样子？
- 如果训练家吃了神奇糖果会怎样？
- 阿渡最近在忙什么？
- 你觉得阿渡能在《剑／盾》里打赢丹帝吗？
- 在《究极之日／究极之月》里，我们看到了彩虹火箭队，所有邪恶组织的首领都聚到了一起。那所有的...
- 你宁愿打1只烈焰马大小的可达鸭，还是100只可达鸭大小的烈焰马？
- 真的吗？我还以为会是反过来呢！
- 如果你们各自开一家道馆，会是什么属性，用哪三只宝可梦？
- 所以没有进化形态？
- 那你呢，大森？
- 那你的队伍会是什么？
- 嗯，那是作弊。
- 妙蛙种子、小火龙还是杰尼龟？
- 你们通常选火系和水系吗？
Following our cover story this month, we had one last chance to sit down with Pokémon Sword and Shield director Shigeru Ohmori and producer Junichi Masuda. While we were sure to ask plenty of serious questions, things went off the rails fast. Before we knew it, we were talking about whether Yoshi was a Pokémon, which legendary Pokémon would emerge victorious, and which Pokémon the two Game Freak figureheads would have if they were gym leaders. You can read the full goofy conversation below.
在本月刊载封面故事之后，我们得到了最后一次与《宝可梦 剑·盾》总监大森滋和制作人增田顺一坐下来交谈的机会。我们固然问了不少严肃的问题，但话题很快就跑偏了。不知不觉间，我们聊起了耀西算不算宝可梦、哪只传说的宝可梦会胜出，以及这两位Game Freak的领头人如果当道馆馆主会带哪只宝可梦。以下是这段胡闹对话的全文。
Game Informer
Does Ash Ketchum exist anywhere in the Pokémon game universe?
小智在宝可梦游戏的世界观里存在吗？
增田顺一
I don’t think so.
我觉得不存在。
Game Informer
You ever notice there’s something weird between Professor Oak and Ash’s mom?
你有没有注意到大木博士和小智的妈妈之间有点奇怪？
增田顺一
They’re always together… it’s probably because they’re from the same town. [Laughs]
他们总在一起……大概是因为他们来自同一个镇子吧。（笑）
Game Informer
Are any Nintendo characters Pokémon? Maybe Yoshi? He does say his own name a lot.
任天堂的角色里有谁是宝可梦吗？比如耀西？他老是喊自己的名字。
增田顺一
Yoshi is just Yoshi, but we did work on an old Yoshi game, and I actually created some of the cries for Yoshi and did some of the sound stuff, so there is a connection, but he’s not a Pokémon.
耀西就是耀西，不过我们确实做过一款老的耀西游戏，耀西的一些叫声其实是我做的，音效方面我也参与过，所以是有渊源，但他不是宝可梦。
Game Informer
What about Kirby?
那卡比呢？
增田顺一
Not a Pokémon, but there is a connection with Kirby you might not expect. The guy at Game Freak, Mr. [Kōji] Nishino, who was the inspiration for Snorlax… Snorlax’s Japanese name is Kabigon… anyway, Nishino was always someone who ate a lot and would go to sleep, and he kind of resembles Snorlax, but in development we would always call him Kirby. So we nicknamed him Kirby, then when we were naming Snorlax, the Japanese name was Kabigon – Kirby or “cubby”…
不是宝可梦，但卡比和宝可梦之间有一段你可能想不到的渊源。Game Freak的西野先生，就是卡比兽的灵感来源……卡比兽的日文名叫卡比兽（Kabigon）……总之，西野这个人总是吃很多、然后就去睡觉，长得也有点像卡比兽，但在开发时我们一直管他叫卡比（Kirby）。所以我们给他起了个绰号叫卡比，后来给卡比兽起名时，日文名就是Kabigon——卡比或者“cubby”……
增田顺一
Speaking of which, the original naming inspiration for Kirby passed away. John Kirby.
说到这个，卡比这个名字最初的灵感来源已经去世了。约翰·卡比。
Game Informer
I didn’t expect the answer to go in that direction!
我没想到答案会朝那个方向发展！
增田顺一
[Laughs] A lot of interesting and mysterious connections between the different things!
［笑］不同事物之间有很多有趣而神秘的联系！
增田顺一
Mew in Pokémon Let’s Go, Pikachu and Eevee
《宝可梦 Let’s Go！皮卡丘·Let’s Go！伊布》中的梦幻
Game Informer
All the legendary Pokémon enter a tournament. Which one comes out the champion?
所有传说的宝可梦参加一场锦标赛。哪一只会成为冠军？
增田顺一
From a personal feeling? I would like Mew to win, personally. I think Zacian and Zamazenta would get up there pretty well. They’d do a good job with that.
从个人感觉来说？我个人希望梦幻能赢。我觉得苍响和藏玛然特会表现得相当不错。它们会做得很好。
Game Informer
What’s the most dangerous Pokémon to encounter in the wild?
在野外遇到的最危险的宝可梦是什么？
增田顺一
Maybe Bewear?
也许是穿着熊？
Game Informer
The Pokédex entry does say it crushes trainer’s spines…
宝可梦图鉴 App 的条目确实说它会压碎训练家的脊椎……
大森滋
In Sword and Shield you’ll see Bewear walking around in the Wild Area and it can be kind of nerve wracking! [Laughs]
在《剑／盾》中，你会看到穿着熊在旷野地带走来走去，那可能会让人有点紧张！［笑］
Game Informer
Are there people out there using older versions of the Pokédex, kind of like how some people use older iPhones?
有没有人在用旧版本的宝可梦图鉴 App，就像有些人还在用旧款 iPhone 那样？
大森滋
Probably. But they’re working off old information. [Laughs]
大概吧。不过他们依据的是旧情报。[笑]
大森滋
Team Rocket’s leader, Giovanni, in Pokémon Let’s Go, Pikachu and Eevee
《宝可梦 Let’s Go！皮卡丘·Let’s Go！伊布》中火箭队的首领坂木
Game Informer
Are there any small pockets of Team Rocket still active?
现在还有火箭队的小股势力在活动吗？
增田顺一
They’re up to no good wherever you find them, but we saw them in Let’s Go, Pikachu recently… they’re in Pokémon Go now
不管在哪儿碰到他们，他们都在干坏事，不过我们最近在《Let’s Go！皮卡丘》里见过他们……他们现在也在《Pokémon GO》里。
Game Informer
So are the members in Team Rocket the same members in Team Go Rocket?
那么，火箭队的成员和GO火箭队的成员是同一批人吗？
增田顺一
Perhaps! You can find bad people just about anywhere.
也许吧！坏人到处都能碰到。
Game Informer
Do you trust Professor Willow?
你信任维罗博士吗？
增田顺一
[Laughs] Probably…
[笑]大概吧……
Game Informer
Since you worked on Pokémon Go so much, you must know what he does with all those Pokémon you transfer to him, right?
既然你参与了这么多《Pokémon GO》的工作，那你一定知道他把你传送给他的那些宝可梦拿去做什么了吧？
增田顺一
I’m really not sure what kind of research he’s up to, but he’s getting so much information from all around the world, he must be really passionate about it.
我其实不太确定他在做哪方面的研究，但他从世界各地收集到那么多信息，一定对此非常热衷。
Game Informer
Are the songs we hear in the towns and in the Pokémon Centers, are those real songs that exist in the Pokémon universe? Like, are those songs that are popular on the radio or that people in the games know?
我们在城镇和宝可梦中心听到的那些曲子，是宝可梦世界里真实存在的歌曲吗？比如，那些歌是电台里流行的，还是游戏里的人们都知道的？
增田顺一
Maybe that’s the music that’s playing in the main character’s head.
也许那是主角脑子里播放的音乐。
Game Informer
So just in the character’s head? It’s not playing over the speakers in the Pokémon Center?
所以只是在角色脑子里？并不是宝可梦中心的扬声器在放？
增田顺一
I think in the Pokémon Center that’s the exception. I think it is playing in there. And for example, the recovery sound, like that little jingle, it’s definitely something that players in the world are hearing.
我觉得在宝可梦中心算是例外。我认为那里确实在播放。而且比如恢复音效，就是那段小旋律，那绝对是世界里玩家们能听到的东西。
Game Informer
So does that mean that you’re a celebrity musician in the Pokémon world?
那是不是意味着你在宝可梦世界里是位明星音乐人？
增田顺一
[Laughs] I wonder…
[笑] 我也想知道……
Game Informer
Can you settle this once and for all: What’s it like inside a Poké Ball?
你能一劳永逸地解答一下吗：精灵球里面是什么样子？
增田顺一
I’ve heard it’s extremely comfortable, like a really high-end hotel.
我听说极其舒适，就像一家非常高端的酒店。
Game Informer
What happens if a trainer eats Rare Candy?
如果训练家吃了神奇糖果会怎样？
增田顺一
Maybe they level up! Like, they’re really good at studying suddenly!
也许他们会升级！就像，突然变得特别擅长学习！
增田顺一
Lance in Pokémon Let’s Go, Pikachu and Eevee
《宝可梦 Let’s Go！皮卡丘·Let’s Go！伊布》中的阿渡
Game Informer
What’s Lance up to these days?
阿渡最近在忙什么？
大森滋
I saw him in Pokémon Masters the other day…
前几天我在《宝可梦大师》里见到他了……
Game Informer
Do you think Lance could take on Leon in Sword and Shield?
你觉得阿渡能在《剑／盾》里打赢丹帝吗？
大森滋
I think Leon’s pretty tough… he may have trouble. Leon’s never lost… undefeated… so I think that’s pretty impressive.
我觉得丹帝相当强……阿渡可能会陷入苦战。丹帝从没输过……是不败的……所以我觉得这很了不起。
Game Informer
In Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, we saw Team Rainbow Rocket where all the evil team leaders joined up. Do all the professors even meet up like that?
在《究极之日／究极之月》里，我们看到了彩虹火箭队，所有邪恶组织的首领都聚到了一起。那所有的博士也会像那样聚在一起吗？
大森滋
That’s kind of hard to think what they would get up to if all the professors got together!
要是所有博士聚到一起，还真有点难想象他们会干出什么事来！
Game Informer
Would you rather fight 1 Rapidash-sized Psyduck or 100 Psyduck-sized Rapidash?
你宁愿打1只烈焰马大小的可达鸭，还是100只可达鸭大小的烈焰马？
增田顺一
100 Psyduck-sized Rapidash.
100只可达鸭大小的烈焰马。
大森滋
100 Psyduck-sized Rapidash.
100只可达鸭大小的烈焰马。
Game Informer
Really? I thought it would have been the other way around!
真的吗？我还以为会是反过来呢！
增田顺一
No no, that wouldn’t work, because I don’t know if you’ve seen the Detective Pikachu movie, but that one Psyduck had that much destructive power. Imagine if it were bigger!
不不，那样行不通，因为不知道你有没有看过《大侦探皮卡丘》电影，但那只可达鸭就有那么大的破坏力。想象一下如果它更大的话！
Pokémon Sword and Shield concept art
《宝可梦 剑·盾》概念艺术图
Game Informer
If each of you is starting your own gym, what type are you and what three Pokémon are you using?
如果你们各自开一家道馆，会是什么属性，用哪三只宝可梦？
增田顺一
Definitely electric-type gym for me. I’ve always been interested in doing electrical projects and stuff like that, so it’d be a full electric-type gym with lighting and cool, you know, electrical decorations. I’d definitely have Pikachu on my team… Yamper… and Morpeko.
我肯定是电属性道馆。我一直对做电气项目之类的事情感兴趣，所以会是一个全电属性道馆，有灯光和很酷的电气装饰。我的队伍里肯定会有皮卡丘……来电汪……和莫鲁贝可。
Game Informer
So no evolved forms?
所以没有进化形态？
增田顺一
They’re all cute Pokémon, so I’m not sure if I would actually do very well in the gym. [Laughs]
它们都是可爱的宝可梦，所以我不确定自己在道馆里能不能真的打得很好。[笑]
Game Informer
And what about you, Ohmori?
那你呢，大森？
大森滋
Grass-type! My name, Ohmori, in Chinese characters is “big forest.”
草属性！我的名字大森，汉字就是“大森林”的意思。
Game Informer
And what would your team be?
那你的队伍会是什么？
大森滋
Alolan Exeggutor…. Have Grookey climb the Alolan Exeggutor…
阿罗拉椰蛋树……让敲音猴爬上阿罗拉椰蛋树……
Game Informer
Well, that’s cheating.
嗯，那是作弊。
大森滋
[Laughs] Then maybe an Oddish? It’s another one that’s probably not going to do very well! [Laughs]
［笑］那也许走路草？它也是那种可能表现不太好的宝可梦！［笑］
Game Informer
Bulbasaur, Charmander, or Squirtle?
妙蛙种子、小火龙还是杰尼龟？
增田顺一
Charmander.
小火龙。
大森滋
Squirtle.
杰尼龟。
Game Informer
Do you usually choose fire-type and water-type?
你们通常选火系和水系吗？
增田顺一
I choose a lot of grass, but I also pick fire sometimes.
我选草系很多，但有时也选火系。
大森滋
For me, throughout development, I’ll choose the water-type, but when the games actually come out, I’ll go with grass a lot of the time.
对我来说，在整个开发过程中，我会选水系，但游戏实际发售之后，我很多时候会选草系。
大森滋
Pokémon Sword and Shield launch on Switch November 15. For more coverage on these games, check out our exclusive coverage hub by clicking on the banner below.
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